Its like you are asking others to make the decision for you. Given the numerous posts you have put up before, it's pretty evident that you have done plenty of research and already know what others are going to say in reply to this post..
I am planning on buying my FIRST dslr in the next month and I want tospend under 650 dollars. I was thinking of getting the Olympus e510or a nikon. I have amazon.com gift certificates that I will be usingtowards this camera so I am specifically shopping on that site. I amnot sure if it is a better idea to go with the olympus because of thetwin kit lens with the 14-42 and 40-150mm lenses or go with a nikond60 with a single 18-55 mm lens. I dont know what to do!!! Anysuggestions. I am not very knowledgable about lenses or cameras, itjust seems that the olympus is JAM packed with amazing features andthe twin lenses are super enticing for that wonderful price under 600dollars!.
Well, you have answered your question here. If the E510 looks so enticing, then go for it! Don't stress yourself because it's not worth it! Just buy the camera and start shooting...
I am happy with my E510. Both kit zooms are very good optically, and are very light too, making for a very nice travel / sightseeing kit. Nice for nature photos too since the 2x crop factor means you can get a decent telephoto reach with a smaller, lighter lens..
If I were to go Nikon, I'd get the D80 (or wait for it's replacement) or D300 so I wouldn't be limited to AF-S or AF-I lenses. Still, the D60 wouldn't be a bad intro camera if you're planning to upgrading lenses and bodies into a studio type setup or something. D60 also has a focus assist lamp so would probably be better for taking indoor shots in dim light (like several other cameras, the 510 will throw you into seizures strobing the internal flash as a focus assist in really dim light, unless you add one of the external flash units... you can set these to flash or just to project a red beam the camera can use to focus with)..
Seem to me you already made your choice..
But in any case, without knowing what you intend to picture with it/how you are gonna use it, it is hard to advice you...
I am just going to say the D60. I am not a fan of the camera seeing as how they opted to NOT put that AF motor in the body, but I don't think you'll be needing primes or non-AF lenses anytime extremely soon. Their are reasons why Canon and Nikon are among the leaders of the DSLR market, it's not just because their bodies are great, but their accessories from them and the third party makers is phenomenal. I am sure their is nothing wrong with the Olympus, but for me, I doubt i'll ever use anything other than Nikon..
Any chance you can go to your local camera store and handle both bodies? That will make a HUGE decision on your choice......
THE Brandon Paith and his Nikon D80...
Agree with the below. Get the D60!.
I am just going to say the D60. I am not a fan of the camera seeingas how they opted to NOT put that AF motor in the body, but I don'tthink you'll be needing primes or non-AF lenses anytime extremelysoon. Their are reasons why Canon and Nikon are among the leaders ofthe DSLR market, it's not just because their bodies are great, buttheir accessories from them and the third party makers is phenomenal.I am sure their is nothing wrong with the Olympus, but for me, Idoubt i'll ever use anything other than Nikon..
Any chance you can go to your local camera store and handle bothbodies? That will make a HUGE decision on your choice......
THE Brandon Paith and his Nikon D80..
Nikon D60 18-55vr & 55-200vrSB400Casio Z750..
It probably doesn't really matter all that much, both are fine cameras fully capable of meeting your needs. So a truely bad choice is impossible. But don't let the more obscure little used features confuse you. These are the 3 features I think are most important..
1) Oly has very good Dust control. I have never had to clean the sensor on my Oly E500. Not sure about Nikon. This probaably isn't an essential feature, but it really cuts down on sensor cleaning and post processing spot removal..
2) The Nikon has a wide selection of cheap lenses you can buy for it. With Oly, you'll have to select between Olympus, Sigma, and a couple of Leica lenses. Is this important? I don't know, for me, it wasn't. The Kit lenses for Oly are very good and I am reluctant to buy cheap lenses for any camera. The question is if you are likely to even buy more lenses and are the lenses available going to be what you want at a price you can afford? For me, either system had what I was likely to buy at prices I could afford..
3) The ergonomics of both Nikon and Olympus are very good. How the camera feels in you hand is VERY important and totally subjective. When I was shopping, I gave a very slight advantage to Olympus, but it wasn't so great that a very good Nikon price couldn't have changed my mind though..
This was probably the real deciding factor for me over all other things. A camera that 'feels' wrong just won't get used much..
Note how Image stabilization and Pixel count aren't on my list? That isn't an accident or oversight. Nice, but not essential to good photography or large poster sized photos..
Like I said, both are fine cameras and you can't go wrong with either. Stop dithering, pick one, start taking pictures, and have FUN!.
STOP Global Stasis! Change is good!.
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Thanks for your responses! Yes, I must apologize to the first response since they seemed to notice that I had asked the same questions a few months ago. However, that was in the winter and I actually lost track of what I was looking at back then and have started over..
I just noticed that the Sony a200 with two lenses is under 600 dollars also so now that is also calling out to me! I pretty much just want to get the best bang for my buck under 650 bucks. I want something I wont have to add on additional lenses to for a while and that will get me the best image quality for a beginner slr..
I totally appreciate your input!!! ..
Thanks for the responses! Yes, I have been to a camera store and have handled all the cameras. Honestly, based on FEELING alone I would choose the Nikon d60. But, I can't say anything bad about the OLY E-510 either as far as handling went. The D60 just felt a little sturdier to me for some reason. It's still up in the air for me..
As I have mentioned before in previous posts I am a complete newbie to the world of photography, so my basic must-have for this new camera would for it to be a great camera for me to learn from and take some amazing shots with...
I see 2 or 3 posts a day from folks looking for their first DSLR and want to know should I get a Canon xxx or a Nikon xxx or an Olympus xxx or a Sony xxx. So in an attempt to be proactive I decided I'd put this post up for you to read before you post the question. Now I own an Oly and say that for clarity up front. Also I have put up almost the same statements for many posts so here's to being proactive..
Ok everyone likes their camera. So if you post a I'm choosing between the Nikon XXX and the Sony XXX you will generally get more comments that say get the Nikon because there are more Nikon owners. They may be right they may be wrong, so lets cut to the chase..
The least important thing overall in the system, e.g. photographer, camera body, lens, is the camera body. ALL the DSLRs available today will take excellent images. All of them. So you have one variable which is basically a wash unless you want to count pixels, take pictures in very dark rooms without a flash, or whatever..
So we are left with the photographer and lenses. All the manufacturers make good lenses. Canon and Nikon make the most and there are more 3rd party lenses. And you will often see a posting about the "wide variety" of lenses from Nikon and Canon. But honestly how many lenses do you need? There are 32 lenses available for a 4/3 mount at my last count. I think that will cover all of my requirements with about 28 lenses left over.
All of the manufacturer make good quality lenses. However based on what I have read and experienced in the kit lens area Oly and Pentax have the best kit lens quality. There are so many other lenses that it really comes down to value. Can you get equiv quality lenses at the same prices. Generally the answer again is yes.
So in my opinion Oly/Pentax come out slightly ahead here for the kit lensesPlease note I said slightly. For everything else it's a wash..
That leaves us with the most important part of the system...the photographer. YOU have to decide what is the most comfortable system for you. Generally the Oly/Panasonic will have a lighter body and much lighter lenses. Pentax bodies are weather sealed so if you are going outdoors a good deal you may want to consider that. So many people use Canikons that you could be able to borrow lenses etc. Sony and Oly have built in image stabilization.
Does any of this matter to YOU? I don't know and nobody on these forums can make that decision. Some people like a heavier system. I don't but I don't like a really feather weight either. Are the controls where YOU want them? Does the menu make sense to YOU? Can YOU quickly change settings? How's the view finder? Is the camera comfortable for YOU to hold and control. If your 6'10 and have hands like Shak then you most likely will not be comfortable with a small camera.
The MOST important aspect in taking pictures is the PHOTOGRAPHER and his/her knowledge of his/her tools and his/her comfort in using that tool. DON'T put too much thought into the tool. Painters don't stand around admiring each others brushes. They talk technique. I've seen shots with Point and Shoots that are better then anything I can take with my fancy DSLR because the guy/gal that took them has more understanding of composition and has a better eye for what is interesting and they get the most from their tools..
Olympus E-510 and a bunch of stuff to hang on it...
I just noticed that the Sony a200 with two lenses is under 600dollars also so now that is also calling out to me! I pretty muchjust want to get the best bang for my buck under 650 bucks. I wantsomething I wont have to add on additional lenses to for a while andthat will get me the best image quality for a beginner slr..
1. You say you like the feel of the Nikon in your hand. My reaction is to buy that then..
2. If you don't feel the Nikon's feel in your hand is that good to justify buying it, and you are looking at a one time all out spend rather than adding lenses later, then the Oly and Sony beat the Nikon because they have two lenses. The Sony A200 is cheaper than the Oly so if you buy that, you could maybe buy a flash as well. The Oly kit lenses are better than the Sony kit lenses so buy the Oly if you don't want an external flash. The internal flash on several cameras blinks like crazy because they are used to help autofocus by the way..