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Nikon D80 and Dust
I'm looking to buy my first DSLR. After having read various reviews, and handled all the potential candidates I'm left with 3 favourites, the Canon 400D, Olympus E510 and Nikon D80..

The only reason I haven't chosen the Nikon over the Canon is because of it's lack of a dust removal system. It feels like a more professional camera to hold, I like the two dials for shutter/aperture control, and the kit lens is far better. So am I worrying unduly about the problem of dust?.

It would be nice to hear anybody's opinion on this..

Also, should I be concerned about the number of lenses that are available for the Olympus E510 as opposed to either the Canon or Nikon?.

Lynn..

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I don't feel this is that much of an issue. While the Olympus anti dust system has been praised I haven't seen any particular praise of the Canon systemalthough it may be of some benefit. Actually, I use a KM5D which does not have a dust removal system and haven't found it to be a serious problem. Yes, I have gotten dust, but it is easy to blow off and there are a lot of dust removal systems on the market that are easy to use and very effective. I wouldn't make it the major issue in choosing my camera...

Comment #1

Lynndy Lou wrote:.

I'm looking to buy my first DSLR. After having read various reviews,and handled all the potential candidates I'm left with 3 favourites,the Canon 400D, Olympus E510 and Nikon D80..

The only reason I haven't chosen the Nikon over the Canon is becauseof it's lack of a dust removal system. It feels like a moreprofessional camera to hold, I like the two dials forshutter/aperture control, and the kit lens is far better. So am Iworrying unduly about the problem of dust?.

While it isn't too much a problem, evidenced by the great photos taken by those cameras. You'll notice a complete lack of dust threads on the Oly forum for a reason.....it's no problem at all..

It would be nice to hear anybody's opinion on this..

Also, should I be concerned about the number of lenses that areavailable for the Olympus E510 as opposed to either the Canon orNikon?.

Lynn.

I don't think so. They have a pretty good lineup of all new made for digital lenses. The kit lenses for the E510 are praised for how good they are. And there are adapters made for legacy glass from a number of manufacturers as long as you don't mind manual focus and stop-down metering..

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Comment #2

I've had a D80 for about 6 months, and have taken about 7500 pictures. I think I've cleaned the camera sensor once with a quick blast from a can of compressed air (yes, I know, a definite no-no). I change lenses as needed, and often do so outside, and don't pay any particular attention to doing it rapidly as I'm more concerned about dropping lenses than a little dust..

I've seen a shot or two where dust was visible, and then it disappeared a couple shots later all by itself. I don't recall it ever ruining any 'keepers'. I noticed more dust on my D50, but never attributed to anything more than the luck of the draw..

As to the number of lenses available to the Olympus, it's really only a concern if they don't have the type of lens to meet your needs (including 3rd party lenses). Generally, you may find it hard to find accessories and 3rd party flashes and lenses, and when available, may be less likely to be in stock. But you don't really need a ton of accessories..

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Comment #3

I'm a Nikon guy. In my experience, dust really isn't an issue, virtually all dust can be removed with a Rocket Blower (never use canned air)..

My advice to you is to remove dust removal from your list of critera and pick a system that will fit your needs in the long haul..

Regards,Brent..

Comment #4

Dust is an issue and the more you change lenses the more you'll have to deal with it. There's nothing more aggravating than buying a 1k dollar camera and seeing specks on your images that you never see from your 200 dollar point and shoot..

The Oly dust removal system isn't enough of an advantage to makeup for a really small viewfinder and a inferior feel than the Nikon..

Anyone using compressed canned air is just looking for trouble so do what you can to avoid being in that situation. How about 2 Nikon D40's with a wide and telephoto lens on each??Good luck.

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Comment #5

I'm really hoping that last line was written with sarcasm...

Comment #6

Dust is always a possibility when changing lenses. But I don't get dust on my sensor too often. Maybe once outta 30 or 40 lens changes?.

I try to be careful when doing lens changes. I use a (largest size, 7", I think) Rocket Blower- which truly works wonders. All SLR's and dSLR's should COME with one IMHO..

I also don't think it should preclude the D80, a great camera that I own and trust to capture images for me. I don't in any way regret my decision to get the D80..

Choosing glass is THE SMARTEST WAY to choose a camera body. It is for that reason I couldn't think of the Pentax K10D. Isn't Oly on the four-thirds system? Whether you like that or not is a personal opinion. I don't see how a person could trust an ultra-wide lens that has a 2x crop factor personally. But hey, Leica is signed on, so there you have a counterpoint..

Look not only at your current budget for lenses, but what you might hope to get in the future- whether you know it or not... Fast glass is worth going for IMHO, not just for aperture speeds, but for softer bokeh, generally better IQ, and better build quality among other factors. Also maybe more standarized filter thread sizes..

Yes, third party lenses are always an option. I've got a few since Nikon doesn't have the fast, wide lens line-up that Canon has. And the Sigma 100-300/4 is also a great lens performer for it's price..

Cheers.Davidmy flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodesma/my website: http://kaptures.net/..

Comment #7

If it were a weather report it would be partly to mostly sarcasm with a 10%chance of legitimacy....

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Comment #8

Mario Giannini wrote:.

I've had a D80 for about 6 months, and have taken about 7500pictures. I think I've cleaned the camera sensor once with a quickblast from a can of compressed air (yes, I know, a definite no-no).I change lenses as needed, and often do so outside, and don't pay anyparticular attention to doing it rapidly as I'm more concerned aboutdropping lenses than a little dust..

Mario! That's a no-no alright. Try a Rocket Blower instead, stay away from the compressed air. BTW, your kids are natural "posers", they make great subjects..

My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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I don't see how a person could trust an ultra-wide lensthat has a 2x crop factor personally. But hey, Leica is signed on,so there you have a counterpoint..

Have you used the ZD 7-14mm (14-28mm in 35mmFF) for Oly's 4/3 system? It is regarded as perhaps the BEST ultra-wide zoom among all manufacturers by both users and camera reviewers alike, regarding color rendition, corner sharpness, and contrast from 7mm to 14mm..

Perhaps the largest drawback of 35mmFF is corner sharpness, one of the very strong points in ZD lenses..

Tim'Be the change you wish to see in the world.' -Mahatma Gandhihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/timskis6/..

Comment #10

Lynndy Lou wrote:.

I'm looking to buy my first DSLR. After having read various reviews,and handled all the potential candidates I'm left with 3 favourites,the Canon 400D, Olympus E510 and Nikon D80..

The only reason I haven't chosen the Nikon over the Canon is becauseof it's lack of a dust removal system. It feels like a moreprofessional camera to hold, I like the two dials forshutter/aperture control, and the kit lens is far better. So am Iworrying unduly about the problem of dust?.

It would be nice to hear anybody's opinion on this..

If you're looking for the best dust removal system, it is hands down Olympus's dust removal system. This has been shown time and again for quite a number of years now by various camera review sites..

However, you should NOT base your decision on choosing a camera solely on dust removal systems..

Also, should I be concerned about the number of lenses that areavailable for the Olympus E510 as opposed to either the Canon orNikon?.

What lenses are lacking from Olympus? The only gaps I see are primes - lenses very few beginners will ever see a need to purchase..

Lynn.

Tim'Be the change you wish to see in the world.' -Mahatma Gandhihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/timskis6/..

Comment #11

I have had a D80 for 10 months now. I have cleaned the sensor once just so I could say I had done it. I use the rocket blower regularly after each shoot. It really is not an issue..

But if you want peace of mind consider this:.

Http://www.dust-aid.com/.

And watch the video:.

Http://www.dust-aid.com/instruction_video.html.

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

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Comment #12

Stevef1961 wrote:.

Dust is an issue and the more you change lenses the more you'll haveto deal with it. There's nothing more aggravating than buying a 1kdollar camera and seeing specks on your images that you never seefrom your 200 dollar point and shoot.The Oly dust removal system isn't enough of an advantage to makeupfor a really small viewfinder and a inferior feel than the Nikon.Anyone using compressed canned air is just looking for trouble so dowhat you can to avoid being in that situation. How about 2 NikonD40's with a wide and telephoto lens on each??Good luck.

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If the OP would get the D80 with the 18-200VR and he/she won't have to worry about changing lenses hardly ever...

Comment #13

Lynndy Lou wrote:.

Also, should I be concerned about the number of lenses that areavailable for the Olympus E510 as opposed to either the Canon orNikon?.

Lynn,.

I did not answer this second part of your question although I think you have answered it for yourself..

It depends what you want to do with your camera. Olympus have nothing like the Nikon 18-200 VR and high ratio zooms like the Nikon 18-135 kit lens also do not exist. Equally there appear to be no macro lenses and I think only one prime..

Olympus do make good lenses but so do Canon and Nikon but they make many more of them and have many more models..

Avoid the 18-55 kit lens on the Canon if you can. It is universally regarded as poor. Check them all out here:.

Http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showcat.php/cat/2.

And here:.

Http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/index.html.

I now shoot Nikon having previously owned three Olympus DSLRs..

If you are going to buy one lens and nothing else then Olympus is OK though I think you can do better. If you might expand and want a long lens for sport or birding or a safari, or a macro lens to photograph jewellery or whatever there are better systems..

The D80 has 3 big pluses over the Canon 400D:.

A) Much better viewfinderb) Better ergonomics.

C) A first class state of the art flash system which you can expand to get brillaint results for just over $200 (The SB-600).

Downside - It cost a bit more than the 400D.

If you can find a cheap 8 Mpixel Canon 30D (now replaced by the 40D). That is also worth considering..

Hope that helps. I am trying not to be too partisan!!.

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/..

Comment #14

Chris Elliott wrote:.

Lynndy Lou wrote:.

Also, should I be concerned about the number of lenses that areavailable for the Olympus E510 as opposed to either the Canon orNikon?.

Lynn,.

I did not answer this second part of your question although I thinkyou have answered it for yourself..

It depends what you want to do with your camera. Olympus have nothinglike the Nikon 18-200 VR and high ratio zooms like the Nikon 18-135kit lens also do not exist. Equally there appear to be no macrolenses and I think only one prime..

There are two macro lenses a 50mm and a 35mm with a 100mm Oly macro on the way.....that makes 3.....Sigma 105mm Macro.....that's 4,how many do you need?.

And of course all of them are primes. Then there's the f1.4 25mm Leica and the 24mm Sigma, 30mm Sigma and and that's just the beginning.....there are others..

Oly has plenty of lenses to match anyones needs..

Chris Elliott.

*Nikon* D Eighty + Fifty - Other equipment in Profile.

Http://PlacidoD.Zenfolio.com/.

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Comment #15

SINGERHI wrote:.

If the OP would get the D80 with the 18-200VR and he/she won't haveto worry about changing lenses hardly ever..

That's one solution to the dust problem and the one my son went with.That is an outstanding lens!.

Still, not trading in my Oly E-1 which lets me have any lens I want without worrying about dust.A member of the rabble in good standing...

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