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new to raw ?????????
Have never shot raw before..

Shooting raw + jpeg. traveling to thailand next month and need to know if I have to bring more compact flash cards.last trip there I used almost 7gb just shooting jpeg..

If this ?? sounds like I know absolutely nothing about shooting raw-then yes...

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Raw's take up significantly more space than jpegs..

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Raw image files are 3-5 times larger than jpeg. so if you took 7gb last trip, you are looking at 21-35gb this time if you switch to raw at all times...

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You say if I shoot raw at all times. I just assumed that one would be shooting it all the time.i sorta knew they took up more space but not sure how muchmore..

Thanks..

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I have been using a lexar 2gb 133x card.15gb could get a little pricey..

Is there a difference between scandisk, lexar and kingston?..

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You'll need a lot more space for RAW but, IMO, it will be worth the effort in order to gat the flexibility that RAW offers. May I suggest a PSD (Portable Storage Device) tha you can dump your memory cards onto when full. I use one when I travel, it is well worth the money to me. Tryhttp://www.mydigitaldiscount.com for an idea as to the units available.My humble photo gallery: http://ntotrr.smugmug.com.

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Comment #5

G'day Harvey etal,.

Mate, why don't you save money, time, effort and card space and shoot just about everything in high resolution .jpg?.

After all, the vast majority of your shots will be holiday snaps - a photographic record of your wonderful journey..

Switch over to RAW only when you come across a very serious subject to photograph..

Buy a couple of extra medium sized memory cards and a back-up battery (or two), with charger of course and you should be right..

Oh, and a Circular Polarizing Filter..

By the time everyone here is finished with you, you will have a laptop, a portable storage device, a handful of cards and bag full of lenses, two cameras etc etc and you won't be able to afford the holiday. 8-).

GBDennis.

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In images where there is a great difference between the dark and light areas shooting RAW will be able to capture the widest dynamic range possible. Done by converting the image twice once for shadows and the second for brightest areas, then combining the two. This thread shows what is possible.http://forums.dpreview.com/...forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=24855398Will..

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I too am going to thailand in about a month and was kinda wondering the same thing. I think I will just shoot in high and turn to raw if it is a really cool pic as a previous poster said. Plus I don't think I would want to have to post process 20+ gigs of photos! What lens's will you be taking with you on this trip. I think I am just gonna take the kit lens and the sigma 70-300 apo macro. Sorry to go off topic...

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I am about to go to Canada (From Australia) with my new DSLR setup (yet to buy)..

I was wondering about the jpg. s raw argument. I gather than when I am taking action shots (skiing) of clients I should stick to jpg. For other happy snaps and groups shots I should do the same..

For landscapes and more 'artistic' style photo-journalistic or cultural shots should I use raw or shoot both?.

I have never post-processed but am very good on the computer (Gen-Y)..

Does anyone know any good sites that break down the post-processing scenario for raw images. I would like a general understanding so I know where to go and look for the detail and so I can figure out what questions to ask...

Comment #9

As you guys probably know, this risks turning into a religious argument. Ill declare my allegiance: I shoot all JPG, and have done since I went digital a year ago. I am gradually putting my toe in the raw water. My thoughts on some of the things I see in this thread, and hopefully some food for thought - things to ask yourself and think about before you decide on your approach:.

Harveyabc wrote:.

Have never shot raw before.shooting raw + jpeg. traveling to thailand next month.

What is the rationale for going from jpg to raw because youre travelling to Thailand?.

Provided you continue to shoot raw + JPG (at the best quality) then theres no downside. You get your shots from your trip straight away (JPG) with the option of tinkering with the tinkering with the raw versions at your leisure. If you shoot raw only, youll have to post process EVERY shot before you can use it. Now many people will say thats not a big deal, you can batch it - sure, but do you have the software tools? I would say a beginner should not shoot exclusively raw until they are entirely comfortable with the workflow to the point where its not an impediment to getting their work out on to paper or screen quickly..

And need toknow if I have to bring more compact flash cards.last trip there I used almost 7gb just shooting jpeg..

As others have pointed out, yes, you are in serious storage space trouble if you go to raw. In another post you say that cost is an issue 15GB could get a bit pricey. If cost is an issue, you would want to think about your commitment to raw. If you really wanted to shoot raw, if you really knew what you were going to get out of it and were confident it would give you visibly better results, you wouldnt be thinking twice about the cost..

If this ?? sounds like I know absolutely nothing about shootingraw-then yes..

So, as I said before, dont ditch the JPGs yet! : ).

At this point I think InPorts post is a very good read. Fully support what is said there..

You say if I shoot raw at all times. I just assumed that one wouldbe shooting it all the time..

As InPort and others have pointed out, no you dont. The interesting thing then, is - how do you decide? If youre just experimenting and learning, its no big deal. You just go hmmm, this is an interesting scene that might respond well to some HDR or whatever else you might do in raw - Ill flick the switch and shoot some raw here. Just for the heck of it..

Some people might say they will choose and change (especially on a holiday) depending on the merits of the scene. As a complete beginner to raw, you probably wont be in a position to do that..

So, if youre not going to go the whole hog (storage wise especially), then just use the trip to shoot some occasional raw (+ JPG!) but dont try and do the whole trip that way..

Porthacking wrote:.

I was wondering about the jpg. s raw argument. I gather than when Iam taking action shots (skiing) of clients I should stick to jpg. Forother happy snaps and groups shots I should do the same..

Probably. The main thing is, if you can get it more or less right out of the camera and youre not going to do (or need to do) major post processing, then it might as well be jpg. If youre going to need to make major exposure and WB adjustments, or try to achieve other effects such as HDR, then youll want raw..

For landscapes and more 'artistic' style photo-journalistic orcultural shots should I use raw or shoot both?.

I dont see that landscapes or cultural shots necessarily lend themselves to raw, except perhaps because of white balance or HDR issues. You probably need to learn and think more about what raw actually achieves before you can work out which shots you would choose to shoot that way. Personally, I dont think its the subject matter, its what you intend to do with the image afterwards..

I have never post-processed but am very good on the computer (Gen-Y)..

All due respect, computer skills have nothing to do with post processing / photographic skills. Im a Boomer and Ive been using computers (and taking photos) since punched cards. Makes no difference to my post processing skills, doesnt make me any better prepared to leverage the advantages of raw..

To be a little more frank - the fact that you think computer skills are the key, and being a Gen Y is some sort of head start, is a signal you need to learn more about what raw is and does..

Raw does not automatically give you better results. Especially if youre a half decent photographer in the first place. Raw is not automatically the choice of professional or more advanced photographers; it is not something you progress to as you get better.* The advantages (and disadvantages) of raw vs jpg are many and varied, but at the end of the day it is your choice based on what is best for you, and practical considerations such as some of the things I have mentioned above..

Hope this helps..

* For example - earlier I said I'd been shooting jpg for a year and I'm starting to play with raw. This sequence is not because I think I'm a better photographer and I'm ready to take the "next step" - it's because I have mastered the basics of my DSLR to the point where I'm ready to try some new things. Not the same thing..

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Harveyabc wrote:.

You say if I shoot raw at all times. I just assumed that one wouldbe shooting it all the time.i sorta knew they took up more space but not sure how muchmore..

Asking here what size your files are, or likely to be, is rather strange, I think! The standard operating system of your computer tells you file sizes, and can do it more than one way......

1) Just shoot a shot in Jpeg and in RAW.. (make it a shot down the street where you live, say)..

2) Hover the mouse over the file(s) in the opened folder they are stored in. Read the size in Mbytes from the info window that pops open (Windows)..

3) Alternatively, right click file and select 'Properties', and read off from there....

4) Or choose 'View > 'Details' in your Folder's options bar....

5) Can't think of yet another way, but there probably is one .. Regards,Baz..

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Wow, thanks for all the feedback.

I could shoot raw + jpeg. backup to my 30gb ipod and just enjoy myself.i forgot about the ipod when I first posted..

I also think I want my cake and be able to eat it too..

I want to be able to backup to the ipod so that I can format the cards and not have to take too many AND still have the security of having the files on the cards. that's not asking too much-is it??.

The problem is my paranoia- transferring to the ipod and then formatting the card..

Last year, I kept all the files on my cards until I got home. felt secure knowing that they were still on the card..

Anyone know anything about using an ipod as a backup drive. is there a downside? I have transferred files to my ipod., but just a few..

Still have pics from 2006. gotta get a special adapter that allows transfer directly from camera to ipod..

The lens ?? - taking the kit lens on my rebel xt and my new tamron 28-75.

Problem with switching back and forth from raw+jpeg to jpeg is that I might forget and sometimes things happen so quickly. also, i'll try not to be clicking away as if I had a motordrive...

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