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My first question is: I want to create a host for my server in godaddy....?.

My next question is: Pardon me if this is some absurd, ridiculous, newbie max question.

But since my country imports goods from both China and Usa, I see the huge difference in pricing for 2 similar items. Example will be a notebook. Low-end 'made in Usa' notebook would cost $999 here usually but a similar 'made in China' notebook with the similar specs would cost only $300? more than a third cheaper in price!.

So i'm wondering if such things happen in the HostGator arena? Does it make sense for a China-based registrar that allows people to register a .com HostGator that cost only maybe 1-2 usd a year?..

Comments (38)

Your question was: I want to create a host for my server in godaddy....?.

Wholesale on a .com is $6,42 anyone selling under that will be out of business in no time because they're losing money one each reg...

Comment #1

If you see cheaper for new com domains, name.com or netfirms.com under 6 USD, and name.com and www2.stargate.com for under 6 Transfers...

Comment #2

It's already happening in some ways. companies sell domains at a loss (even give them away free) just to get you to open an account. or to tempt you to buy other things.

For the moment it's western countries doing the big discounting tho. mainly automatic so not much advantage in cheaper labor costs...

Comment #3

Thankfully no or else .com would go down the drain and be worth garbage..... like .cn..

Comment #4

Yeah .cn are worthless, who would want to buy a name with a country code that is being promoted by it's government and only has 1 billion plus local potential buyers/users...

Comment #5

Yes It is a stupid, but commonly asked Newbie Question.

Domain Names are NOT Consumers goods able to be Manufactured cheaply in some countries. They are licenses to use a particular string of characters. This license has a licensing or registration fee. The wholesale price is set by the originating registry for the particular gTLD or ccTLD.

Any difference in the retail price is the decision of the registrar/reseller of the HostGator name. If a particular registrar wishes to sell below w'sale price that is their choice.

So yes in theory, a .com HostGator could be sold for $1 ,but only at a loss to the registrar of over $5This is not a good business model, unless it is intended as a promotion to bring business for webhosting or some other full priced service. For instance a lot of Hosting sites give away a HostGator free if signing up for a year of hosting...

Comment #6

And how many of those peasants can afford internet access or have enough money to spend on the internet?.

Thought so...

Comment #7

I am sure the 290 million plus Chinese internet users and 9 million .cn registrees would appreciate your peasant racist slur...

Comment #8

Perhaps you should look up the definition of "peasant" if you're not that familiar with english...

Comment #9

I think my english is good enough to know when someone is casting racial slurs and it was plainly obvious in what context you meant it.

If you consider it is acceptable then so be it, just not in my book...

Comment #10

Its more ignorant then racist. Shockie, it will be funny one day when your country is controlled by China and your a Chinaman's peasent...

Comment #11

The context is that if they don't have that kind of money to spend because of their work. the whole sentence in that post refers to income and the ability to spend money.

What context are you do you two haters think it was in? no need to be so sensitive to the facts...

To dean26: it would really suck if china controlled my country because they treat their own citizens (other than those related to the government) like trash...

Comment #12

Fairly obvious when you feel the need to explain yourself. And then you go on to berate China yet again.

Please tell us of your experiences of China and the way they treat their citizens to confirm your statements and your obvious bitterness...

Comment #13

But they do have money. They are like the 3rd biggest economy in the world or something now I think. In the future they will be number 1. In the cities like Beijing and Shanghai they are rich. The problem is in the rural areas they are still poor. You really need to educate yourself more before you post such ignorant remarks.

There government is a big problem but it will sort itself out. I think it's kind of funny that they call themselves communists when they aren't. Communism is an economic theory more then anything else and if they used communist economics then they still would be very poor. Anyway I really dont see the authoritarian government lasting much longer, soon the Chinese will wake up and start a revolution...

Comment #14

Yes I feel the need to explain myself because it seems some people are too busy being sensitive to the facts instead of excepting them *coughs*. but if you rather figure these out some facts yourself instead of having me explain it then tell us what happened at tiananmen's square for starters. or you can tell us why all (except maybe a few) of the buildings fell during the recent earthquake. (hint: the few that didn't fell were funded and regulated by outsiders).

If you want I can give more examples, but i'm pretty sure most of us are well aware of the human rights violations that china exhibits on it's citizens. "they" as in the government or all the people outside of the government and outside of beijing and shanghai? btw what's the foreign population in shanghai? and isn't most of china considered rural, "where they are still poor?".

You need to look at the distribution of income, not just the total gdp out of the country. a large population might make for a blindly impressive economy, but it doesn't necessarily mean there's a large population of internet consumers within that country...

Comment #15

Ah, I see you believe all that you read in the popular press.

My guess is you have never been to China and do not know any native Chinese.

Tiananmen - 19 years ago! Come on now.

I am pleased to hear that you have inside knowledge in relation to the building structures in Sichuan and the surrounding provinces.

296 million internet users and growing at a very rapid rate..

Figures you chose to ignore, how does that compare to your country- a higher percentage of the population no doubt?.

I am now finished on the subject. Hence you may have the last word- but you would any way would you not...

Comment #16

Hi,.

I am pretty sure china will get more and more internet users. However at the present time, HostGator sales there is not good enough. time will tell...

Comment #17

I mean people outside of the government do have money. From 1 billion people I am sure you will find more internet users in China then in the USA...

Comment #18

Haha yes, what happened at tiananmen square didn't happen, nor did the earthquake, nor all the cases of human rights violations... too bad over 40% of china's labour force is in agriculture (peasants). sorry if all these facts displease you. just keep ignoring it and believe your personal press, haha. united states had 208 million internet users as of 2006..

China had 162 million internet users as of 2007.

(and this doesn't even factor in many of those chinese users don't have internet at home... so if you look at how many people have credit cards too and are willing to send this info over a public connection... etc).

But maybe wot is right and this is all a conspiracy by the popular press and isn't true at all!!!..

Comment #19

Well wot claims there are 296mil internet users in China which is more then the 208mil in USA...

Comment #20

Anyway it's not the total number of internet users that counts - it's the potential growth that matters.

I'd buy .cn over .com any day.

China: 210,000,000 Internet users as of Dec/07, 15.8% penetration, per CNNIC.

US: 246,402,574 Internet users as of Mar.31/08 and 73.1% penetration rate.

Source - www.internetworldstats.com.

Also Shockie, the internet is cheap! websites, domains etc are all cheap, cheap! If we were talking number of cars then you'd expect china would lag way behinf us for many many years.

I wish I spoke mandarin, would love to go hard into .cn domains..

Comment #21

There seems to be a range of figures of internet users... usa: 215 million (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats14.htm).

But anyway, you're right in that it's not the total number of internet users that matters - it's whether those users will be spending money in the internet space.

Some things to consider:.

- internet infrastructure is highly government-controlled (like everything in china) and growth will only come if the gov't says so..

- of the ~15%, how much of that is in public (work, cafes, etc) compared to private (homes)?.

- will appreciable growth come from more public access or private?.

- how many of you feel safe using public internet? sure maybe you'd check your email since you won't be home (where you all have internet) for a few hours, but would you log into paypal? register a domain? etc? if so, then please use my proxy.

The internet is cheap (at least for you and i), but even at 70% penetration for china, would those people be a) able to, b) willing to, spend as much money on the internet as say 70% of americans, whom have a lot more private internet access to do... private internet stuff, whom have more discretionary income, credit cards (too many, lol), etc etc...

Comment #22

Go get yourself an education!.

On the spending thing, the gross internet spend in the US is only about the size of that of the UK. Who are the real peasants around here?.

By the time the US comes out of recession the Chinese Market will kicking at your heals...

Comment #23

It is The Great Firewall of Chinese government that prevents the value of the .cn domains from matching it's .com counterparts. But it is only a matter of how long before the goverment eases the regulations and allows (or is forced to allow) a free flow of internet informatin before .cn owners can truly cash in on their domains. IMHO that is...

Comment #24

Over 40% of china's labour force is in agriculture...

Comment #25

Dear shockie I am an alien in china for 2 yrs now dear,,.

Come here and enjoy the country...

U will definitely be "shockie"..

Comment #26

Which will provide the labour pool for an ever expanding economy. Beside if you take the other 60% that is still nearly 3x the population of the USA...

Comment #27

Where did I say that china's population was smaller than any other country? I did say "and how many of those peasants can afford internet access" and people started doubting the peasantness (def. not a word) of the chinese population.

So to put that to rest, I say again: over 40% of china's labour force is in agriculture...

Comment #28

Yes, and over 90% of the US population is in denial...

Comment #29

And whilst your on perhaps you would explain why US employment figures are always called Non-Farm Payrolls? We don't get that terminology over here but then only about 1 % of employment in the UK comes from agriculture and the filling of those posts is heavily dependant on being able to attract migrant workers from Eastern Europe. The use of such terminology suggests that Agriculture has been bedrock of US economic development. And if that is so, why mock other countries that have large agricultural sectors?..

Comment #30

I'm not familiar with the "non-farm payrolls" terminoloy, but most undeveloped countries have agriculture as the bedrock of their economy (tracing back to the barter system etc). as they become more developed (some a lot slower than others), they usually move into more service-based industries and out of agriculture/farming/whatever.

For example, the developed country usa has less than one percent of their labour force in agriculture/farming/etc...

Comment #31

Yes, and most of that pool of labour gradually transfers over to the Industrial and Service sectors. That transfer is speedened by an effective education system, which actually is one of Chinas great strengths. The number of engineering graduates that China is producing is staggering and dwarfs those of the US. And please don't try to pass them off as worthless bits of paper. The general standard of education in Mathematics and other scientific disciplines is generally much higher than in the West and particularly in the US. This is afterall one of the main reason that Capital Investment is pouring into China and India at unprecedented rates.

The emergence of the BRIC economies present real threats and opportunities. If we trivialise things we will maximise the former and miss out on the latter...

Comment #32

The number of history graduates they produce that don't know the complete truth about the massacre at tienanmen's square is staggering as well.

As for general standards, perhaps it's time to raise the general standard of human rights in that country. we can try to pretend that these people are great because of the capital investment being poured in at unprecedented rates, but at the end of the day we're only deceiving ourselves because greatness doesn't come from one's ability to peg their currency, or mistreat their citizens on a widespread scale...

Comment #33

Nobody is saying that there are not problems, it is a question of the best way to deal with those. Even the World Bank now recognises that democracy and free markets are pretty much counter-productive in making the leap from non-developed to a developed nation. Also, anyone that knows anything about the developing countries knows that getting people up to a basic standard of living and giving them an education, is far more important that implementing democratic institutions that fail to function effectively in an economic vacuum.

When we talk about human rights, China has come a long way in the last thirty years. It may still have a long way to go, but at least it is not going backwards which has been the case in Bush's America.

As for whether we esteem them as great or not, is another part of your denial. What we think probably does not count for anything like as much as we like to think. On a democratic basis the US would only get about 5% of the say anyway...

Comment #34

Good. so as long as we recognize that there are problems in that country that stem from the government, and is why it's a good thing they don't control the .com tld, and is why my reply to the op was:.

"thankfully no".

Good that we can all agree and give thanks that there "shouldn't be some china-based registrar that can offer .com dn for $1 Usd/yr." it's easy to come a long way when you're far behind. hopefully the trend continues instead of plateauing (< is a word!). as for america, things should get much better during the next presidency. too bad we can't call it "bush's america" in about half a year, lol...

Comment #35

Nobody can really undercut the current prices for Dot Coms as over 80% of the fee goes to Verisign. Some registrars are making almost nothing after ICANN have had their bit.

Yes, the current system is pretty good, but heavily dominated by Verisign. The rise of the ccTLD will bring some balance. As long as there is choice, things will be good.

The reason there is little chance of China plateauing anytime soon is because there is so much headroom. The US probably plateaued a decade ago, and is now in a horizontal stall. The US does have a beautiful and resource rich country, but ultimately it is populations and the cultural development of those population that determine economic importance. If you don't believe this, take a look at Japan, German or the UK for that matter. Our tiny envelopes of land are not the driving force behind our successes. Quite the contrary...

Comment #36

And i'd much rather verisign be from japan, germany, uk, or any other democratic country than china. or it can stay in the democracy of the usa.

The increasing fees can be a pain, but at least it's a very well-run registry. if the registry was absolute garbage then they'd have to lower their prices to $1 or less, lol...

Comment #37

But unless you are paid in dollars the prices have actually been going down.

With a severe risk of hyperinflation in the US, the fact that Versign is locked into a framework agreement, may actually prove to be a very good thing...

Comment #38


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